Comments for Siggi the super geek soap box http://www.supergeek.us/blog Just some random thoughts. Anything from Politics to technology Tue, 08 Nov 2011 03:22:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 Comment on The Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender (LGBT) debate by siggib http://www.supergeek.us/blog/?p=46&cpage=1#comment-20 siggib Tue, 08 Nov 2011 03:22:11 +0000 http://www.supergeek.us/blog/?p=46#comment-20 I appreciate your thoughts on the subject, although I don't understand the point you are trying to make. So let me share some of my thoughts on your response. I believe the harmfulness of high fructose corn syrup is still in dispute and too much TV watching is at best nebulous as effect varies greatly from person to person. You seem to argue to I am proclaiming homosexuality is benign simple based on feeling (which is a very accurate argument) yet you seem to offer nothing but a feeling as to how it might be harmful to society. Isn't it equally dishonest to proclaim it unsafe without fully backing up your position. Studies on life expectancy, illness factors, depression incidents, can be easily swayed just by carefully selecting your sample pool. I find it very hard to believe that homosexuals are generally in worse health than say smokers, or those that abuse alcohol. Can you provide reference to the studies you are referencing? What harm are you hypothesis homosexuality has on society? And what sort of harm might homosexuality have on kids? Are you arguing that homosexuality might be contagious? Do you have anything to back those hypothesis up with? Just to be clear I believe homosexuality is absolutely benign, there is no way it can be contagious or in any way harmful to society, and it is homophobia, hatred and prejudice that is harming society. The homophobia and hatred is harmful to kids as we should be teaching kids to love their fellow being and not judging them. I appreciate your thoughts on the subject, although I don’t understand the point you are trying to make. So let me share some of my thoughts on your response. I believe the harmfulness of high fructose corn syrup is still in dispute and too much TV watching is at best nebulous as effect varies greatly from person to person. You seem to argue to I am proclaiming homosexuality is benign simple based on feeling (which is a very accurate argument) yet you seem to offer nothing but a feeling as to how it might be harmful to society. Isn’t it equally dishonest to proclaim it unsafe without fully backing up your position. Studies on life expectancy, illness factors, depression incidents, can be easily swayed just by carefully selecting your sample pool. I find it very hard to believe that homosexuals are generally in worse health than say smokers, or those that abuse alcohol. Can you provide reference to the studies you are referencing? What harm are you hypothesis homosexuality has on society? And what sort of harm might homosexuality have on kids? Are you arguing that homosexuality might be contagious? Do you have anything to back those hypothesis up with?
Just to be clear I believe homosexuality is absolutely benign, there is no way it can be contagious or in any way harmful to society, and it is homophobia, hatred and prejudice that is harming society. The homophobia and hatred is harmful to kids as we should be teaching kids to love their fellow being and not judging them.

]]> Comment on The Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender (LGBT) debate by Alex http://www.supergeek.us/blog/?p=46&cpage=1#comment-19 Alex Mon, 31 Oct 2011 22:58:16 +0000 http://www.supergeek.us/blog/?p=46#comment-19 Although your post is well written, you are missing a very important part of the debate over homosexuality. The harm that it does to society. While most people define morality with personal specifics (murder, drinking and driving, cursing in front of children) I define the blanket term: morality is the measure of how an act effects society if it is allowed to prosper unimpeded. So if murder is allowed to prosper, it would be chaos. If pedophilia, same thing. That makes those two things immoral. So when it comes to the question of homosexuality, the effects of homosexuality are harder to see, just as the effects of too much TV and high fructose corn syrup are hard to see. We know that those are harmful NOW! But it too decades or even GENERATIONS to realize that they aren't healthy. The same is true of homosexuality. It's intillectually dishonest to simply proclaim that homosexuality is benign, just on feelings. You have to really look at the effects that homosexuality has had so far. It's too soon to say how homosexuality has effected children, but individually, homosexuality is harmful to the individual. Gays live 20 years shorter than straights. Gays have higher incidences of disease. And gays are more depressed. Of course your immediate reply is probably to blame bullying for these things, but studies by reputable organizations have shown that depression amongst homosexuals can't be fully blamed on social stigma and bullying. Consequently, due to all of these issues, we would have to conclude, barring any long term study that does not threaten society itself, we would have to conclude that homosexuality is harmful to society. So if it is a choice, then it must be immoral. If its not a choice, that doesn't necessarily mean that it's automatic or genetic. You don't know what things happened to you in the first years of life. Maybe these things cause homosexuality leanings to manifest fully. Who knows? Right now no one does with any certainty. But until homosexuality is PROVEN to be benign, without experimenting on society, we should treat it with suspicion because it IS harmful. Thanks for reading. Although your post is well written, you are missing a very important part of the debate over homosexuality. The harm that it does to society. While most people define morality with personal specifics (murder, drinking and driving, cursing in front of children) I define the blanket term: morality is the measure of how an act effects society if it is allowed to prosper unimpeded. So if murder is allowed to prosper, it would be chaos. If pedophilia, same thing. That makes those two things immoral.

So when it comes to the question of homosexuality, the effects of homosexuality are harder to see, just as the effects of too much TV and high fructose corn syrup are hard to see. We know that those are harmful NOW! But it too decades or even GENERATIONS to realize that they aren’t healthy. The same is true of homosexuality.

It’s intillectually dishonest to simply proclaim that homosexuality is benign, just on feelings. You have to really look at the effects that homosexuality has had so far. It’s too soon to say how homosexuality has effected children, but individually, homosexuality is harmful to the individual. Gays live 20 years shorter than straights. Gays have higher incidences of disease. And gays are more depressed. Of course your immediate reply is probably to blame bullying for these things, but studies by reputable organizations have shown that depression amongst homosexuals can’t be fully blamed on social stigma and bullying.

Consequently, due to all of these issues, we would have to conclude, barring any long term study that does not threaten society itself, we would have to conclude that homosexuality is harmful to society. So if it is a choice, then it must be immoral. If its not a choice, that doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s automatic or genetic. You don’t know what things happened to you in the first years of life. Maybe these things cause homosexuality leanings to manifest fully. Who knows? Right now no one does with any certainty.

But until homosexuality is PROVEN to be benign, without experimenting on society, we should treat it with suspicion because it IS harmful.

Thanks for reading.

]]> Comment on Are women better than men? by mbjarnason http://www.supergeek.us/blog/?p=22&cpage=1#comment-9 mbjarnason Wed, 27 Oct 2010 04:50:04 +0000 http://www.supergeek.us/blog/?p=22#comment-9 Well of course we are better :) But, what makes me better is having a dancing supergeek for a husband! Well of course we are better :) But, what makes me better is having a dancing supergeek for a husband!

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